GAME 59 vs Miami, Game Thread

by Tom Ziller on Mar 2, 2008 1:00 PM PST in Game Threads

Revenge of the Kings. I feel quite certain Sacramento will play well in this one.

This is a 6 p.m. game. Enjoy, and go Kings.

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Is it too early to say that I just

don't give a rats ass about this team anymore? I'm turned off by this group again mostly because watching Artest holds no appeal.

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by pookeyguru on Mar 2, 2008 1:03 PM PST reply actions

Sigh

There is just no more things to get excited about for this team. We're in no man's land. We have no shot at a playoff spot, almost no shot at moving up in the draft. No cap space to sign major free agents and a load of bad contracts in K9, Shareef, John Salmons, Brad Miller and not to mention lobster hand.

Yeah... Let's go Kings! It's time to get revenge on the worst team in the NBA who spanked these Kings by 21!

Sacramento Kings: Where its never a dull moment happens!

The Sacramento Kings: Where Amazing Happens!

by kingme18 on Mar 2, 2008 2:48 PM PST reply actions

Protect the ball, move the ball and get good

shots. Let's blow these bastards out. Go Kings!

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 2, 2008 6:03 PM PST reply actions

IF I were a gambling man

Money Line is -70
Kings are 6.5 point favorites
The over/under is set at 204.5

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Mar 2, 2008 6:05 PM PST reply actions

CORRECTION

Money Line is -270

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by 27freethrows on Mar 2, 2008 6:05 PM PST up reply actions

I'll take...

...the Kings to cover and the under.

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by 27freethrows on Mar 2, 2008 6:06 PM PST up reply actions

Yeah I picked the Kings to cover too.

Part of a 3 game parlay to win $1.13. I love Centsports.

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by stankpalmer on Mar 2, 2008 6:43 PM PST up reply actions

At least watch J-Will be the PG most of y'all

never thought he'd be. We traded J-Will and got...J-Bibb.

The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Mar 2, 2008 6:34 PM PST reply actions

Remember:

#1: Hate on Artest. Nothing like supporting yuour team by not watching and talking shit about it's best plaer.

#2: Ignore Seafood and 'He Who Must Not Be Named' fucking up. These are your homies, your ppl, never mind if they suck, just support 'em anyway.

#3: You are ALWAYS right, and everyone else is retarded, has no basketball IQ or "hasn't played the game".

#4: Enjoy the game you aren't watching but going online to bitch about nonetheless.

The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Mar 2, 2008 6:43 PM PST reply actions

Who's the Voldemort reference?

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by stankpalmer on Mar 2, 2008 6:45 PM PST up reply actions

Think you are falling into your own trap

Anyone who says anything negative about Artest or thinks K-Mart is the future of the Kings has to be a "hater" or have no basketball IQ.

As soon as someone tells me I am a "hater" because I disagree with their point of view, I know they have a closed mind.

by SavageBeast on Mar 2, 2008 8:20 PM PST up reply actions

HATER!

</sarcasm>

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by 27freethrows on Mar 2, 2008 8:31 PM PST up reply actions

Homey!

by SavageBeast on Mar 2, 2008 9:38 PM PST up reply actions

You're my boy

BLUE!

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by 27freethrows on Mar 2, 2008 10:27 PM PST up reply actions

I promised I wouldn't mention him

...and while being snide, I AM a man o my word.

The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Mar 2, 2008 6:49 PM PST reply actions

I ain't watching the game

Are the shots for Miami wide open or are they just simply on fire?

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by kingme18 on Mar 2, 2008 6:53 PM PST reply actions

A little bit of both

We definitely arent playing stellar defense, but the Heat really are hitting everything they throw up.

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by 27freethrows on Mar 2, 2008 6:55 PM PST up reply actions

Down 22 in the first half

and out come the boo-birds.

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by 27freethrows on Mar 2, 2008 6:57 PM PST reply actions

Everything from the Kings' D to Reggie's suit is

just ugly.

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by stankpalmer on Mar 2, 2008 7:06 PM PST reply actions

dumb

wow, with 25 sec left in the half we finally put sheldon in, a 4 who can actually play D and protect the rim. Moore looks horrible tonight, per usual i suppose.

by joeytothelimit on Mar 2, 2008 7:07 PM PST reply actions

2nd Half

I fully expect this to be an exciting game down the stretch. I think the Kings will make a solid run in the 2nd half.

This reminds me of the Seattle game early in the ear. I expect Reggie Theus to blow up in the 2nd half, question their manhood and make the first spurt and get back in this game.

Also, the Kings have never just laid down and died and they ain't gonna just sit tight and let their dignity get burned by the HEAT. They came back against Boston, I expect the same thing to happen again.

BOOK IT!

Cheer up, guys. The Kings will make a run. I'm not guaranteeing they'll get over the hump but this is about their dignity right now.

Expect the Kings to charge back

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by kingme18 on Mar 2, 2008 7:12 PM PST reply actions

Hey, wait a minute

I remember you admitting you only say "BOOK IT" when you want the Kings to lose in an effort to move up in the draft order. Which is it tonight?

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by 27freethrows on Mar 2, 2008 7:22 PM PST up reply actions

Well...

It is the Miami HEAT...

You shouldn't get blown out at home against Miami. Whether I want the lottery or not.

The Sacramento Kings: Where It's never a dull moment Happens!

by kingme18 on Mar 2, 2008 7:59 PM PST up reply actions

Tie ball game

Kings on a 35-12 run. Good Call!

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 2, 2008 7:56 PM PST up reply actions

It seemed to me that having Artest lead the

team in shots attempted was not a good thing. So, I went back thru the schedule and here are the W/L breakdowns. Note: where 2 players tied for team lead in shots attempted, I gave the W or L to both players.

Artest: 10-11
Martin: 12-6
Salmons: 6-6
Beno: 1-3
Miller: 1-2
Garcia: 0-2
Bibby: 0-2

Just something to think about.

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 2, 2008 7:49 PM PST reply actions

wowzers.

That may say something.

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by iashwash on Mar 2, 2008 7:52 PM PST up reply actions

Artest is now 11-11

I guess I should sum it up. I no longer think it's a terrible thing for Artest to put up the most shots. I think we should be trying to get Kmart the most shots, but it's not the end of the world if Artest gets the most. Just don't let anyone else lead the team.

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 2, 2008 8:32 PM PST up reply actions

Another factor

Remember that Kmart is very proficient at getting fouled in the act of shooting, and those shots don't count as field goal attempts. Kevin is averaging a little more than three free throw attempts per game than Artest.

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Mar 3, 2008 10:18 PM PST up reply actions

Of course

But I didn't feel like putting in the time to also add up FT attempts divided by 2 for all of the players to get an offensive "touches" number.

All that really says to me is that in those 18 games where he had the most shots, he probably had a lot more "touches" than the next player. And looking at the W/L in those games, I'd say that's something we should be looking to do more often.

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 4, 2008 3:29 AM PST up reply actions

One More Thing

Both Kmart and Artest have missed 17 games this season. They have both only played 42 games, so Kevin is the leading shot-taker in about 43% of the games he has played. Artest a little more than half.

I believe they missed 10 games together.

It would be interesting to see how many of those Artest-shot-leading games came with Kevin not playing and vice versa.

And it might be interesting to see what the numbers were like in the 32 games they have both played in. Out of 59 this year. Geez, no wonder they have struggled.

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Mar 4, 2008 7:56 AM PST up reply actions

Yes

There could be a lot of factors that could affect those W/L numbers. I was just looking at one thing. Obviously it's not a perfect study, and it may be completely meaningless. But it may have meaning. Thus "something to think about".

More info from memory(and my piece of scrap paper):

Salmons' shot-leading games came when he was starting, so one or both were out. 2 or 3 came in the first 7 games, where Artest was suspended(he started 0-3). So, without Kevin or both he was 6-3

At one point Martin was 1-2(Artest suspension for sure). So, he's gone 9-3 since then(most of those would be with Artest, but at least one was when Kmart came back from injury before Ron and Mike).

At one point Ron was 5-5(last game a win tied with Kmart, pretty sure)So, I'm pretty sure that stretch was with both. Then he went 3-0 to 8-5(without Kevin? maybe). He's 3-6 since then. He had a tie/loss I think was with Bibby that put him at 8-7(with Kevin). So probably around 3-4/3-5 with Kevin after the injuries.

Again, this is from memory and my scrap paper(that has a running total of W/L and a note of ties). So, I'm sure it's not perfect, but close.

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 4, 2008 12:47 PM PST up reply actions

Not sure about the stats

But the Kings have played well when they have all of their players and they've played poorly when some of the pieces are missing. My current diary discusses this in more detail.

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Mar 4, 2008 1:19 PM PST up reply actions

Ha!

Brad dunks as the "hoosier hammer"

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by 27freethrows on Mar 2, 2008 8:12 PM PST reply actions

Don't look now, Pookey,

but I think you lit a fire under Ron Ron. After checking out the blogs and having his feelings hurt, I guess he's out to prove you wrong... 29 of 55 from the field his last three games (!), and with 6 minutes left tonight looks like he might drop 30 on the Heat. Only took 9 shots from 3 pt range in that stretch, and he nailed 4 of 'em.

"When the Going Gets Weird, the Weird Turn Pro." (Hunter S Thompson)

by Mucho Moss on Mar 2, 2008 8:17 PM PST reply actions

Uhh...

Holy fucking shit!

I always watch games where the Kings are getting whooped and hope that I'll see some amazing comeback. And it finally happened tonight. Granted, it was against the Heat, but still. Wow.

by vfettke on Mar 2, 2008 8:27 PM PST reply actions

Nice come back

Huge games by Artest, Martin and Beno.

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 2, 2008 8:29 PM PST reply actions

whew,,

i get rewarded for working late in miami and missing the game, with a kings comeback victory against miami. oh, the irony

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by CrownUs93 on Mar 2, 2008 8:45 PM PST reply actions

It was BENO-TASTIC !!!

watched the whole game !!! Doesnt matter if we make it to the playoffs i just want us to finish strong this season!!!

GO KINGS !!!

by maiku on Mar 2, 2008 8:53 PM PST reply actions

TZ

I noticed you didn't say the kings would "Play well consistantly." So I have to give you that one. Of course, considering the Miami and Atlanta games it was possible they wouldn't play well even in spurts.

by SavageBeast on Mar 2, 2008 10:22 PM PST reply actions

Low commentage on this game

Maybe pookey's not the only one frustrated?

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by iashwash on Mar 2, 2008 10:25 PM PST reply actions

heh

Even the fans are on tank mode

by kingme on Mar 2, 2008 10:41 PM PST up reply actions

I work during games

It's why I don't post on threads. When I do it means I'm not at work.

I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Mar 3, 2008 1:56 AM PST up reply actions

Everyone else was working on Sunday Evening too?

Wasn't critiquing you, but clearly your general attitude voiced at the beginning of this post isn't exclusive to you. Which sucks, really.

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by iashwash on Mar 3, 2008 4:01 AM PST up reply actions

Well I work during game time

and that's just in general. The exception is Wednesday's (and the rare thursday game). Now onto the nasty stuff. I agree with you that alot of people are turned off by this team. What's their to really root for anymore? Artest isn't raising his value anymore than he did the 3 months prior to the trade deadline. I can't believe Petrie actually SAID fans wouldn't want him to rush into making that decision. My question is: You think a year is rushing you into making a decision?

I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Mar 3, 2008 11:29 AM PST up reply actions