Peaches is Dead. Long Live Peaches.

by Tom Ziller on Apr 4, 2008 7:33 AM PDT in Meta

So... this happened.

To recap: Muff209 wore his Peaches shirt to the game, got on the pregame show, got close enough to the broadcast team to show off his tee... and landed in the Jack Daniels Images of the Game. (kingsTV captured the moment in the above screen-grab.)

Late last night, Mr. Napear himself emailed to ask that we refrain from selling the t-shirts. I suspected this day would come, though perhaps not so soon. I do not begrudge Grant for reserving the right to profit off his own face. We made $27 for the Sacramento SPCA ($3 per shirt, nine shirts sold), and I'm going to match that amount and deliver it to the pound as soon as Spreadshirt cuts the check.

Thanks to Lady Ziller for the flawless execution in creating the design, thanks to everyone who purchased one, thanks to Muff for getting it on T.V., thanks to kingsTV for capturing the magic, and thanks to Grant for not sending rottweilers to my house.

Now, back to basketball.

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Are you kidding?

Wow, that is some incredibly thin skin. Is there some horrific back story to the Peaches name that we don't know? Was it the name of a childhood puppy that tragically left him too soon? Considering EVERYBODY else seems to get the fact that this whole deal is all in good fun, I have to say that what little respect I had for the guy (I'm sure there was a shred or two somewhere in there) is gone. I thought New Yorkers were supposed to be tough. Maybe his nickname is peaches because his skin is soft and fuzzy and thin like the skin of a peach?

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on Apr 4, 2008 7:47 AM PDT reply actions

Dear Peaches,

Nine of the ten people that actually voted to put a jersey in the rafters in your honor contacted me to rescind their vote. These people included your parents, your wife, your kids, Jerry, Gary Gerould (Gary voted yes on everybody, he's just that nice), and my mom, who mistakenly thought she was voting for Cary Grant.

I would take this opportunity to really rip you, but I can't help but pity someone that has a great job and (from all appearances) a great life, yet can't seem to enjoy it (again, at least not publicly). You appear to be a humorless, mean, joyless individual. I base that on your increasingly negative attitude on your radio show (I must admit that this opinion is a little old as I stopped listening 3 months ago), coupled with your reaction to a harmless T-shirt that benefits the local SPCA.

Grant Napear, you're a tool.*

*The opinions expressed here are solely section214's and may not reflect the opinion of StR. No animals were harmed in the writing of this note. OH BOY!

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Apr 4, 2008 8:17 AM PDT reply actions

This is wrong

I'm sorry, but this statement is flatly wrong:
"The opinions expressed here are solely section214's and may not reflect the opinion of StR."

I assure you, the opinions expressed here DO reflect the opinions of StR at large, or at least my opinions.

by Carl on Apr 4, 2008 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions

I was just trying

to keep all of you clear of the hell that is Grant's legal team - the Jackhole's jackals.

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by section214 on Apr 4, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Being in public doesn't make him immune

from criticism. TZ had every right to sell those T-Shirts. Grant has no copyright infringement on those shirts, as much as he'd like to believe. He's just a jerk.

And for the record Grant's legal "team" can sue me all they want.

I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Apr 4, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm with Carl

stop trying to be a martyr. You're not the only one who quit listening to KHTK over Peaches'insanity.

Other than that, s214, I agree with you completely.

God bless you, Corliss. You always played as though you knew how expensive my tickets were. -section214

by KK on Apr 4, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Hey!

TZ, how about contacting Jerry Reynolds about making a shirt with his likeness. You could replace the oranges with ears of corn, change "Peaches" to "THE Hick From French Lick", and on the back you could put "I'm with Peaches."

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Apr 4, 2008 8:21 AM PDT reply actions

or

"hippity hop to the barber shop"

by kingsTV on Apr 4, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions

I like hippity hop to the barbershop

better myself.

I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Apr 4, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions

What a jackhole

Not surprised in the least. He's probably only five or ten years away from shaking his fist at the neighborhood kids when they ride by his house.

Kenny Thomas - uniting Kings fans since 2006

by otis29 on Apr 4, 2008 8:35 AM PDT reply actions

The Hick from French Lick

I'd totally buy that shirt.

If Peaches can't appreciate a little good natured ribbing then screw him. Although the idea that something I did caused Peaches so much grief that he had to rifle off a late night e-mail really makes me happy.

I'm also sorely tempted to call into Sportsline today and call him out on it.

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on Apr 4, 2008 9:07 AM PDT reply actions

Do it!!!!

Ypu have to call in amd ask him about it. Explain the situation the to screener, and i promise you will get on the air.

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Apr 4, 2008 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions

Personally?

I'd love to read the text of the email, but that's just me.

Maybe it's posted further down the thread. I can only hope.

It would be grand if somebody tried to call him on it on-air.

I guess Peaches hates Socks and all dogs in general. Idiot.

God bless you, Corliss. You always played as though you knew how expensive my tickets were. -section214

by KK on Apr 4, 2008 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions

OH BOY!

damn, i didn't even get a chance to order one yet.

thanks, napes

It's May 12th 1999, America waits in anticipation as Todd Fuller steps to the free-throw line.....

by CrownUs93 on Apr 4, 2008 9:08 AM PDT reply actions

I just don't get....

...the degree of the 'anti-Peaches' vitriol. I've lived in Sac for about 12 years and have listened to Grant Napear on the radio and TV off-and-on for the entire time. He's definitely got a different 'vibe' in each medium.

TV: mostly standard play-by-play fare, with ridiculous but entertaining exclaimations mixed in for good measure.

Radio: quite a bit more cantankerous/abbrasive and opinionated than his 'toned down' TV-self, with ridiculous but much less entertaining verbal tilts with the likes of 'Stanley' mixed in for good measure.

Now, I'm not involved in broadcasting, journalism or celebrity but I would think that you need to carve a 'niche' for yourself, particularly in the radio area where people tune in because of YOU, as opposed to TV where people tend to tune in because of the PRODUCT (eg. the Kings). For example, Koz has his 'smart aleck' thing going on (which I prefer), Carmichael Dave has his 'I'm wacky' thing going on (which grows tiresome very quickly), etc. Grant's got his 'I'm from the Mean Streets and will tell it to ya straight regardless of how it makes you feel' thing going. So what?

Admittedly, the first time I tuned in to Sportstalk (or whatever it's called) weekdays at 4pm (is that a plug?) I was irritated by this cranky, rude, opinionated son-of-a-b*tch but I did find that I tuned in the next day. And the next. You get it. Eventually, the comments he made and his opinions started to make sense to me, in spite of the sometimes abbrasive delivery. Again, so what? If you don't like that type of thing you can switch to the more vanilla programming on another station.

Anyway, if a media personality is elliciting a response from the audience then that, I think, is a good thing, right?

My first post. Blast away.

by defender96 on Apr 4, 2008 9:18 AM PDT reply actions

Eh

I appreciate your perspective, but let me explain my own issues with his style.

He's a jerk on the radio, a real meanie. It reflects poorly on all of us when you consider his style begets angry, idiot callers who just want to fight and know he'll bite into it. The types of callers his style attracts makes all us Kings fan look like idiots. (I mean, compare the thougtful, funny callers a show like The Razor and Mr. T gets. No contest.)
He has a number of verbal tics which, when paired with his mean-spirited, know-it-all personality, form a Voltron of rage. Like the harping on technical fouls. Or the harping on when the team gets to the penalty early in the quarter. Or the unending fawning for Mike Bibby last year (when Mike was terrible). Or chiding Miller for not shooting an open J. You are the play-by-play guy, man... call the game.
I like most of his standard go-to slogans... but he has beat them into the freaking ground. It's a bit embarrassing to see a YouTube highlight of a pedestrian coast-to-coast jam with the announcer having a flipping conniption, like it's Game 7 of the Finals and someone nailed a 40-footer. There seems to be no scaling the excitement, which is required when a team is 35-40.

All said, I'd say he's a decent announcer and a god-awful radio host. I can only tune into Sportsline when they are interviewing a Kings personality or a Bee guy. That's tragic, considering it's the only local sports show during drive time.

by Tom Ziller on Apr 4, 2008 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions

You have a right to your opinion

You have a right to your opinion, so I don't think anyone should jump on you for it.

Answering your question is pretty simple. I've listened on an off to Grant argue, complain and insult people for more than 10 years, and it's made me hate the guy. Frankly, I don't know how anyone can stand him.

I only listened (past tense) because I wanted Kings news and had no other choices.

by Carl on Apr 4, 2008 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions

Napear

First, I keep hearing people who have League Pass mentioning that Grant/Jerry are better than most of the announcers in the rest of the league. That does not inherently make them good announcers, but it may well say something about everyone else.

Second, I can live with him on the Kings broadcasts, but someday this horse's ass has to be taken off of the drive time KHTK radio show. I can only listen for about 2 or 3 minutes before he says something that pisses me off.

My main problem with his radio performance? One, I think he's a closet racist. Two, he shouldn't take any phone calls. Now, most of the people that call in are dumbasses, but he has two approaches with his callers. One is to berate them, and the other is to NOT have a conversation with them. Meaning, he will let them talk for thirty seconds then say "thanks for calling" and go to the next caller.

Basically, he's a moody prick.

/(G)rant off

Grant "Peaches" Napear - uniting Kings fans for too damn long.

by otis29 on Apr 4, 2008 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions

Oh, and other than all that

He's great.

Grant "Peaches" Napear - uniting Kings fans for too damn long.

by otis29 on Apr 4, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions

Otis

He's probably a top 10 NBA announcer, and knowing you, I'm sure you would believe that reflects poorly on the announcing in the NBA. I disagree, though, slightly. He's above-average in that respect and does fairly well. I don't pay much attention to his crap on the radio, because, it's crap.

I don't blame Grant completely. How much blame does Mike Remy for continually ignoring other options (such as broadcasting the a's--1140 is after all 1 of 2 super stations in Norcal--680 being the other--and yet they choose to kiss the Maloof's ass by broadcasting Monarch's games)????

Last but not least I think the fact that he "threatened to sue" just shows how threatened he was by a simple joke by a relatively small group of Kings fans.

I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Apr 5, 2008 1:56 AM PDT up reply actions

Welcome!

I dont really like Grant per se, but since I dont live anywhere he is on the radio, he doesnt really affect me.

Glad to hear your thoughts though, keep 'em coming!

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Apr 4, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Ehh

Anyway, if a media personality is elliciting a response from the audience then that, I think, is a good thing, right?

Unless it drives a captive audience away from the station altogther.

I used to listen to KHTK religiously on the morning and evening commute and sometimes at home.

Peaches' has turned my stomach so badly that I can't even listen to any of their shows anymore.

My loss, I suspect, since they are still the number one station for Kings news. I refuse to listen to Rant's program and I guess the Rise Guys are just collateral damage...but they have their own issues.

To recap, defender96; controversy is good...unless it leads to a complete station boycott.

I'm pretty much in station boycott mode. I loose some Kings news, I suffer less irritation by jackhole on-air personalities.

If KHTK's demographic is to attract the losers who get past their screeners (exception: CD's show which clears his lifetime buddies), then I have no business listening to their programming.

Qualification: KHTK occasionally clears a decent caller but it's too infrequent for me to take a chance on their programming.

But, that's just my opinion.

Good luck with your internship.

God bless you, Corliss. You always played as though you knew how expensive my tickets were. -section214

by KK on Apr 4, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Parody and fair use

TZ,

I am not in any way a lawyer, but you can make a strong argument that this shirt is a parody, which is protected as fair use. This is also not a commercial venture, since all the proceeds are going to the SPCA.

More info here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/18/national/18arnold.html?ei=5007&en=907933cc3fcee453&ex=1400 212800&partner=USERLAND&pagewanted=print&position=

Now I'm sure you don't want to get sued by Grant Napear, though getting your shirt on the news would sell a hell of a lot of them. I'm just saying that I think you have an argument.

Here's a suggestion: Get 15 shirts - you know, the extras you have "laying around" - and mail one to each Kings player along with a note explaining that Grant wouldn't allow you to keep selling them. Suggest that the players wear the shirts. Brad Miller would do it in a minute. I pledge right now to contribute 20 bucks to this effort.

Anyway, I should have ordered one a didn't. They're a collector's item now.

by Carl on Apr 4, 2008 9:27 AM PDT reply actions

yes

i am in on this as well.

i would love to see brad warming up in a peaches shirt before the game

by kingsTV on Apr 4, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions

it does makes sense, but

if someone might as well send 1 out 2 scot pollard and "mr. bench mob" jon barry. im sure that they would get a kick out of it

It was a good game, Both teams played hard. Both teams hard my man, both teams played hard. Both teams played hard, God bless & good night.

by KingsShow1988 on Apr 4, 2008 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Questions

Did Mr. Napear threaten legal action if the shirts continued to be sold?

Why are you discontinuing the sale of the shirts?

by coolcatreportdotcom on Apr 4, 2008 9:32 AM PDT reply actions

Yes

He said if they were not taken down, I would be contacted by his lawyer.

Thanks for the support everyone. I'm not particularly eager to get into a legal battle with a Maloof Sports & Entertainment employee. But we'll see if the Peaches shirt can survive in some way.

by Tom Ziller on Apr 4, 2008 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions

Oh Boy,

Does that make me happy...now, what's my paypal password...damn.

God bless you, Corliss. You always played as though you knew how expensive my tickets were. -section214

by KK on Apr 4, 2008 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions

yeah

I'm curious as to what ol' Peaches said in his e-mail too. Does it reveal a man on the brink because his childhood nickname he thought he escaped when he left New York traveled cross country and finally caught up with him? Did he frantically call his lawyer up at midnight to draft a letter for him to send? Did we step on the King's toes and release a shirt similar to one they were planning on making? These questions need to be answered.

Before I was still somewhat skeptical that he ever really had the nickname Peaches before we discovered a random wikipedia nugget. This reaction makes me rethink that.

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on Apr 4, 2008 9:52 AM PDT reply actions

Ask and ye...

The email was fairly simple. In its entirety:

It has been brought to my attention that t-shirts are being sold with my face on them. I have not given permission for this, and have not been contacted in regards to this.

I would like the sale of the merchandise to stop. If not, you will be notified by my attorney.

Sincerely,

Grant Napear

by Tom Ziller on Apr 4, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions

You forgot something...

You forgot to put his e-mail address in that quote, so we can all tell him what a great job he's doing.

by Carl on Apr 4, 2008 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions

That's funny

I never said where I got the shirt. Of course he probably could have just asked any production staff member. Considering the shirts are essentially high quality iron ons, I might just buy a bunch of iron on printer paper and make a few shirts myself. I'm fairly certain homemade shirts are protected free speech. And it's a little ironic Napes is limiting our free speech after the Summer Olympics tribute game considering all the issues the host of this years Olympics are bringing up.

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on Apr 4, 2008 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions

the jerk...

can't even write correctly. It's "in regard" Grant. What a jack*ss!

by Kusian on Apr 4, 2008 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions

What an idiot!!

I'd continue but it's been a year or more since I listened to the jackhole on the radio so it's nearly impossible to parody him any further. Perhaps section214 can do better since it's only been three months since his last Peaches radio exposure.

God bless you, Corliss. You always played as though you knew how expensive my tickets were. -section214

by KK on Apr 4, 2008 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions

As a defense,

I'm pretty sure kingsTV can provide you with audio/video of Grant saying he has no idea whose face that is during the JD images of the game.

/attempted humor.

God bless you, Corliss. You always played as though you knew how expensive my tickets were. -section214

by KK on Apr 4, 2008 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions

haha

i actually thought about putting it up but didn't think anyone would care.

i still have it though

by kingsTV on Apr 5, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions

I say put it up

I barely was able to catch the rebroadcast to see it once. It'd be funny to hear their reactions again. Plus it'd be helpful for the Vegas Kings posts I'm doing.

I'm Grant Napear's favorite fan.

by Muff209 on Apr 5, 2008 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Another suggestion

Carl has a point about fair use, though I suspect you're reluctant to test that theory in a suit with Mr. Napear.

I recommend that all far flug and obsessive Kings fans (Pookey, Kfan, Kingsfanin Hawaii, 27free throws) submit their orders now. Shirts get sold, SPCA benefits, Arco is relatively shirt free, TZ doesn't get sued, and Peaches is haunted by their appearance at random road games.

I'll take two, and have one more reason to hope the Sonics don't leave Seattle.

by Snakes in the Trees on Apr 4, 2008 9:52 AM PDT reply actions

I'm you man!

If I can still get a shirt, I'd love to do this. I normally spend whatever I have to in order to sit behind the Kings bench, but I wouldnt mind sitting near Peaches! I absolutely love the idea of him seeing me in one during an away game.

Man, now I want next season to be here!

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Apr 4, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions

I didn't order one

because I don't like white T-shirts. I already own too many as it is. I'm too sloppy of an eater to NOT get stains over them eventually. Why would I want to ruin a perfectly awful t-shirt (i mean one that has Peaches--not the t-shirt itself) like that? On the other hand it might show how much respect I have for Peaches too......

I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Apr 5, 2008 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions

oops, little late

That's kind of weak that he'd threaten legal action for something that was clearly a tounge in cheek tribute to the guy. While I'm almost positive TZ's within his legal rights to sell the shirt, I understand him wanting to avoid a legal battle with that douchebag.

Really I'm just disappointed in him. I thought he had to be aware that people poke fun at him. Apologies to those who didn't get the chance to buy a shirt. If I had known he was going to be a dick about it I wouldn't have shown it too him. Of course now I'm wearing it to every game I go to just to spite him. Apologies to the SPCA too, the shirt was a hit with a lot of fans and many asked me where they could get one. Now they can't because a petty person has thin skin, and the animals are the ones who suffer.

But frankly, and diehardkingsfan can attest to this, Peaches' reaction might just have been worth it.

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on Apr 4, 2008 10:00 AM PDT reply actions

Maybes

Maybe everyone can email Sam Amick at the Bee, Amick will do a story, Napear will look like crap and he will back off.

Maybe the SPCA can chime in and say some dog won't get adopted because of Napear.

Maybe Ron Artest can volunteer to buy $5,000 worth of the shirts with the proceeds going to the SPCA.

Maybe the SPCA can have a special Adopt a Pet on Peaches promotion.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Apr 4, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions

samick@sacbee.com

Sam Amick's email address.

I just put in my two cents; 15-20 more emails could push him over the edge and put this in the Bee.

Maybe someone can call Napear's radio show and ask about the shirts. Don't tell the screener that's your topic, however :)

by coolcatreportdotcom on Apr 4, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions

"Hi...

My name is...uh...ZT. I'm a first time caller, long time listener, and I have a comment on...Eli Manning, whom I believe is the greatest quarterback in the NFL today..."

Once you're through to Grant, yell "Hey, Peaches!" You will then hear the dial tone while Grant calls you an idiot on the air. Mike Lamb will be laughing hysterically into a muted microphone.

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by section214 on Apr 4, 2008 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions

thin skin

As mentioned before, for such a "tough" guy he sure is a little bit of a baby about this. 1140 should rename the show "Peaches and Lamb". Just to see what he'd do.

Beer. Its not just for breakfast anymore.

by Beer king on Apr 4, 2008 10:20 AM PDT reply actions

hey, here's an idea

I really liked having a Peaches shirt. Is there anyways we could still do one without using his likenessm Kind of like deadspin's "you're with me, leather" shirt. Maybe not a sillouette but perhaps it could have a depiction of Peaches' most recognizable feature, that rug on the top of his head. Or maybe Lady Z could draw a mustache on the current pic and then we could say "Hey, that's not you Grant, you don't have a mustache"

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on Apr 4, 2008 11:52 AM PDT reply actions

Not sure about that.

Don't know if the world could handle a Bizarro Peaches. On second thought he would probably be super polite and a real nice guy to hang out with.

by moproblemz on Apr 4, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions

Exactly!

If asked we could say the good Napes likes to be called Peaches and that he's a rare case where the twin with facial hair isn't the evil one.

...maybe I should set my beer down.

I'm Grant Napear's favorite fan.

by Muff209 on Apr 4, 2008 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions

y'all silly

After reading the first three posts on here, it becomes pretty obvious that this isn't some good-natured ribbing.
Someone even goes as far to say that he has a dream job, and dream life, and that therefore nothing should effect him. Someone explain to me what this means? Mo money, less problems? Does he go home and soothe his pains away by bathing in twenty dollar bills? Is his life the modern version of Andy Griffith? You don't know anything about this guys personal life, so don't make moronic statements about it.
That was mostly in response to section214's post which had a bit of a corny undertone, so I could be mistaken as to how serious it was. But other than that, no one knows what this name means. Someone found it on Wikipedia and now....here it is. Sure it's funny to talk about on here but don't be presumptious by thinking that the name is a good tease for him in real life. (Insert tongue-in-cheek comment)
You guys go off on this guy far more than anyone else not named Ron Artest, and even Ron's criticism is balanced by supporters.
He's the frickin play-by-play man.

"I am the law." - Sylvester Stallone 1995

by somebunchgrass on Apr 4, 2008 11:56 AM PDT reply actions

He's the play by play guy

AND the drive-time sports talk show host. Of the only Sacramento-based sportstalk channel. For what seems like a bazillion years.

Haven't we suffered enough?

Grant "Peaches" Napear - uniting Kings fans for too damn long.

by otis29 on Apr 4, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions

It's not the play-by-play that;s the problem

I hate Rant as much as anybody, but I think his play-by-play is fine. It's his War on Radio Program callers that rubs me the wrong way.

I don't think Section214's insinuation was that Napear should be happy because he makes a lot of money. I know I wouldn't say that. I've known too many unhappy rich people to ever say that.

The thing is - Rant makes a living watching and talking about sports. If I could sit here comment all day and get paid for it, I'd be the nicest, happiest guy you ever met. (Well, I do sit here and comment all day, but TZ hasn't sent my bonus check yet.) ;-)

The point is that Grant appears to lead a pretty charmed life, and he STILL seems like the angriest, most miserable person you can imagine.

by Carl on Apr 4, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Actually

The play-by-play is part of the problem. At least, for me.

He's often wrong on the score, personal foul counts, and team foul counts. It drives me nuts. I'm at home watching the game and counting fouls (casually) and he pronounces certain counts and I'm sitting there thinking "WTF?" and doubting my own counts, then he'll correct it without actually correcting it.

Team fouls, score, personal fouls. It drives me nuts. It's like he's not even watching the game.

God bless you, Corliss. You always played as though you knew how expensive my tickets were. -section214

by KK on Apr 4, 2008 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Hmmm,

I don't know what I find more offensive, the "corny undertones" of the "moronic statements," especially given the fact that you don't know anything about my personal life. :)

Look, Napear handled this poorly, period. He could have contacted TZ and asked him about the shirt before playing the "my attorney will contact you" card. Perhaps had he takent the time to find out that the shirt was for non-profitable causes he would have even jumped on board. Artest is doing PSA's for the SPCA. Grant may have liked the tie in. Or he could have simply said that the "Peaches" nickname is personally offensive to him and he would prefer to have the shirt taken out of circulation.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Apr 4, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions

sigh

The reason we sound off on Peaches so much is because he gives us so much to work with. If Ron Artest, Brad Miller, Speedracer, or any King had a weekly radio show we'd discuss that too. Plus, like TZ said earlier, it's mostly Peaches' fault. He's purposely created an extremly polarizing personality for his show and constant criticism tends to be the result of that.

Not to mention that our opinion of the guy's work doesn't negate the fact the the t-shirt was an attempt at some good natured ribbing. When you have a personality like Grant's you have to expect people are going to have an opinion on it and take it in stride. It's part of the job. I've spent the last 2 years critisizing Mike Bibby. Does that mean if he were to muff a dunk like Brad did last night I can't give him sh*t about it because it would be malicious? No. He's a public figure, just like Grant. The ideal reaction I was hoping for from Grant was laughter. Because then it would at last humanize the guy. I don't want to hate him, he just tends to not leave us any choice.

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on Apr 4, 2008 12:30 PM PDT reply actions

My wife is a lawyer

So I got her to look at this during her lunch hour. She just laughed and said that there was NO WAY Grant could sue over the shirt. It's a perfect example of the "parody" loop hole that we can all thank Larry Flint for. According to her (I am in no way a lwyer), most lawyers wopuldnt even put a letter together for him, because the would know its pointless. At worst TZ, you would get an empty threat letter from his lawyer, that Grant would have to pay $500 or so to have done. However, I comepletely understand not wanting to piss off somebody that works for our favorite team.

All that being said, can I still buy a shirt?

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Apr 4, 2008 12:40 PM PDT reply actions

It would be pretty great

It would be pretty great to post a threat letter from Grant's lawyer on the site. I wonder how many times his lawyer would call you an "idiot" and a "freakin' moron?"

by Carl on Apr 4, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions

although...

I do have to respect Napes for reaching out to TZ personally instead of immediatly just lawyering up. I may think it's silly to want to protect his image from being used to help the local animal shelter, but technically (and it pains me to say this) Grant's right. He probably should have been asked before his likeness was used, but if the roles were reversed I would have just laughed and appreciated that a fan thought enough about me to put my likeness on a shirt, even if it was associated with an unwanted nickname. And as a guy seemingly stuck forever with the nickname "Muff", I think I should know a thing or two about unflattering/unwanted nicknames.

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on Apr 4, 2008 1:01 PM PDT reply actions

Someone got to you didn't they???

Grant "Peaches" Napear - uniting Kings fans for too damn long.

by otis29 on Apr 4, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions

What part of that email didn't scream

I'm lawyering up if you don't desist?

Kudos to Lady Ziller are way overdue from me.

God bless you, Corliss. You always played as though you knew how expensive my tickets were. -section214

by KK on Apr 4, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Oh it did

But he fact that he didn't actually lawyer up is the part I respect. If he wanted to be a dick he could just have contacted his lawyer immediately.

I'm Grant Napear's favorite fan.

by Muff209 on Apr 5, 2008 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions

He didn't contact his lawyer yet

because aside from being a jerk, he is also a tightwad.

Well, that's what I heard...

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Apr 5, 2008 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions

StR makes Amick's web watch

Sam Amick linked to Peaches-gate from his Kings Blog, here:
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/archives/011626.html

by Carl on Apr 4, 2008 1:33 PM PDT reply actions

Well Played, Peaches

Kudos for your deft handling of this situation and your ability to keep this whole thing under wraps.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Apr 4, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions

I guess

I should catch up with the board before posting :)

by coolcatreportdotcom on Apr 4, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions

by the way

Some non-Peaches news from the game last night. While at the autograph table I asked Angle about his fight with Couture. I asked him if he was doing it with Mark Cuban's HDNet Fights because Cubes said he was the one trying to sign that fight. Angle said no and bashed Cuban a bit, basically saying Cubes never made a serious offer to them and just assumed he had the inside track on signing the fight because he's already got a deal with Randy and Cubes and Angle apparently went to the same high school. He said Cubes was porbably just saying that he was working on signing the fight because he wanted press (Which is totally uncharacteristic of Cubes).

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on Apr 4, 2008 1:40 PM PDT reply actions

Next on the Agenda

The TZ Defense Fund?

Maybe Gloria Allred or some other ambulance chaser will take up the case pro bono for some face time.

Not that I am a legal expert, but Peaches is no doubt a public figure. If you were selling T-shirts with a Hillary Clinton caricature, would she be threatening legal action?

by coolcatreportdotcom on Apr 4, 2008 3:56 PM PDT reply actions

Confusing

I would have thought that the Peach Growers Association would have been the people that would have had a problem with this...

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by section214 on Apr 4, 2008 6:59 PM PDT reply actions

Deadspin

We could always forward this link to Deadspin maybe this is the kind of story they would be interested in?

by Murf on Apr 5, 2008 9:55 AM PDT reply actions

Maybe

Although I say forward this to Dana Jacobsen. If you're going to go big, go for the big guns. Plus at least Dana would understand what's going on better than a bunch of dude's on the east coast (not including Rick.)

I'm Grant Napear's favorite fan.

by Muff209 on Apr 5, 2008 11:22 AM PDT reply actions

Oh and...

I think fanhouse would make a little bit more sense. I hear we know a guy who works there.

I'm Grant Napear's favorite fan.

by Muff209 on Apr 5, 2008 11:28 AM PDT reply actions

Grant Napear Sucks

This is my 1st post here and I want to go on record immediately to say I detest Grant Napear! I read the Q&A and can now say Grant is not only a douchebag in my opinion, he is also a liar. Grant claims to be close personal friends with Marty Mac and I know for a fact Marty Mac will tell you different, because Marty Mac told me that himself.

With regard the the "Peaches" T Shirt, don't sell them, give them away, and accept donations to the charity. If you can't use his picture, I am pretty sure you can use a charicature of "Peaches" without his permission, just as cartoonists do everday without permission.

If Grant can't laugh at himself once in a while, then everyone should laugh at him.

by Grizbacker1 on Apr 5, 2008 3:44 PM PDT reply actions